yes
you can spend time with a thermotron liar and thief--
i was warned in 1971 that the holland michigan dutch and christian reformed were petty and vindictive
and Hil sybesma used those same "words" and phrase to describe the management style at thermotron,
Thomas patterson -- said --"well if you don't go long with what every they say " then they "attack" you..
He thought it was funny as he said-- Gee when john tenbrink and dave durham were embezzling and defrauding their hours and time and bein drunk on the job--
Bob
Wiley and his gang of thieves -- attacked you-- as the remedy-- for that "UNWANTED information.
It is no doubt -- that Boeing and other companies -- would not hire john Tenbrink-- because the only time he was working was when Bob Wiley -- was on the job site--
other wise -- for get it-- then John tenbrink would lie to him about the progress and his co workers
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